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Major League Poster Posts: 1618 (06/22/06 5:56 PM) League Statistician Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Manager's we need last names in the line-ups espeacially in week #1. I got a new team to the league listing just 1st names with a couple with a last initial. If you are new to the league I don't know who a Steve H. or Amy K. is. I need more info. Also a reminder, no nicknames.
SuperlativeOwls	Re: Line-ups # ???????	#1	[-]
Double A Poster Posts: 51 (06/23/06 9:48 AM) Double A Poster Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I have seen postings like this a million times on this site. Some managers may not read the message board. So that is why you guys are having continues problems. Why don't the score keepers give their lineup back and tell them to put last names on them. Your probloems will be solved.
Bam Bam 8	Re: Line-ups # ???????	#2	[-]
Major League Poster Posts: 1618 (06/23/06 11:01 AM) League Statistician Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The scorers do try to get the names. But another way to solve it is if the managers actually realize that the league officials don't know EVERY member of the league. Especially the new teams. This is the only league that I've played in that the managers seem to expect the scorers & every other person that needs the names to know who they are. Another way of solving it is that if you don't list a last name the player doesn't get the credit for the game to make him eligible for the playoffs even after we find out who it is.
SuperlativeOwls	Re: Line-ups # ???????	#3	[-]
Double A Poster Posts: 51 (06/23/06 11:22 AM) Double A Poster Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	just a suggestion. What leagues are you having the most problems with? I will help you out.
Bam Bam 8	Re: Line-ups # ???????	#4	[-]
Major League Poster Posts: 1618 (06/23/06 11:45 AM) League Statistician Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks. Mostly Sunday nights. That's also the night we have the most teams & the most new teams. I've just been going through this every season since "99. It gets a little frustrating. We only get partial names & then I get complaints that the stats are being given to the wrong guy or not given because the changes were never given. I've had some fun e-mails over the years. Sorry for going off.
Mrs ScoreKeeper	Line ups	#5	[-]
Major League Poster Posts: 1024 (06/23/06 1:40 PM) Head Scorekeeper Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Most scorekeepers do ask the manager for last names I ask them the first week for first and last names why should we have to remind them each week. I think some mangers need to be more orginized. It's easier for them just to put first names and not worry about the last names.
latincontrol	Re: Line ups	#6	[-]
Major League Poster Posts: 529 (06/23/06 1:51 PM) Groundskeeper Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Most managers I've noticed are always rushing 3 seconds before the game to put a final roster or names together. They show up not having the slightest idea who will be there or who's getting there on time. I agree with the scorekeepers, I've noticed the increased efforts in trying to get names for everyone, and it's a joint effort with trying to get articles done. Very hard to acknowledge your on the field accomplishments when we have no idea who you are or even your name. It begins with the managers. As a manager myself, I know we are urged and have been urged to even submit rosters before the start of the season or at least 5 minutes before the start of the game. I am certain if managers get their line-ups done a little earlier...the scorekeepers would do their job, as will the journalists. I know some come from work, and some have other things to do, but managing was a choice, a choice and responsability that individual manager chose.
SuperlativeOwls	Re: Line ups	#7	[-]
Double A Poster Posts: 51 (06/23/06 1:53 PM) Double A Poster Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	thats is correct. It isn't that hard to write peoples last name. It will take them a whole 2 mins longer. The line-ups should be done before you arive at the field. I understand you might have to make changes but at least if you have it done ahead of time and it will take you 2 mins instead of 10 mins. I am not putting the scorekeepers down. I was just suggesting something to make it easier for everyone.
sixofdiamonds	Re: Line ups	#8	[-]
Posts: 12970 (06/23/06 2:16 PM) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	*Quote:* Les and Paul, With you permission I would like give the score keepers an envelope to hand to every team in the Sunday coed. This envelope will contain the attached letter and 20 copies on the attatched spreadsheet. Please feel free to add-on/remove anything on the letter or spreadsheet. I know that someone posted a spreadsheet on the message board before but I know not all managers look at the website. Some people won't do it unless it is done for them. I will travel to all the feilds before their first game start on sunday. I have no problem doing this. I can understand how fustrating it could be. You guys try your hardest and when it comes to the end of the season and someone is listed as 2 games instead of 3, they go down your throat like it is your fault they don't put last names down. Please review the attached forms and get them back to me today if you can, If not tomorrow. If you want me to do it for every league, I can. Mike Thank you, Mike. I think that will be very helpful. I will be posting a link to the letter and spreadsheet in the event a manager cares to download and print copies.
SuperlativeOwls	Re: Line ups	#9	[-]
Double A Poster Posts: 51 (06/23/06 2:30 PM) Double A Poster Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	No problem sorry about typo's in the email. That is why I work with numbers not letters. LOL. I will deliver them Sunday morning for both men's and coed. I will drop the rest on each day during the week. To all managers: I am sorry if I insult anyone by given you these spreadsheets. I know most of you have been in this league for a long time and know what you are doing. I am going to give it to every team, not to insult your intelligence, but to put every team on the same page. Everyone working for the league is putting in alot of their personal time into the league. Just want to make it easier for everyone. Thank you for your time Mike
sixofdiamonds	Re: Line ups	#10	[-]
Posts: 12970 (06/23/06 2:36 PM) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Here's the link to the manager letter... www.cuttingedgesports.net/misc/dear.sba.managers.pdf Here's the link to the lineup card... www.cuttingedgesports.net/misc/lineup.pdf Below is a sample line-up card used by Mike of the Superlative Owls. This format goes a long way in producing accurate stats in a timely manner.
latincontrol	Re: Line ups	#11	[-]
Major League Poster Posts: 529 (06/23/06 2:53 PM) Groundskeeper Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Good stuff Mike.
sixofdiamonds	Re: Line ups	#12	[-]
Posts: 12970 (06/26/06 11:42 AM) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	*Quote:* Les, I have the following suggestion for improvement to consider for the new lineup cards with the defensive positions by inning that I think might make it easier for the managers comply. I am not sure if this would be a problem or confusing for the statisticians but I'll leave that to the league to evaluate. Suggestion: Allow each manager to pre-fill the form on a spreadsheet with their full roster including uniform numbers and players names in alphabetical order. Then they will just need to write the batter number on the form next to the players in the lineup for that game instead of writing out first and last names each week. Since this information doesn't usually change throughout the season, a manager could set up the form once before the first game and just print copies to use for all the other games. This could help the statisticians by having the names typed and consistently legible compared to reading a manager's hand-written names which many times are written in a hurry close to game time. Pete Ferraro I think that's an excellent idea, Pete. Thank you!
SpeedyB625	Re: Line ups	#13	[-]
Major League Poster Posts: 1602 (06/26/06 11:53 AM) League Statistician Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	These are all good ideas. The easiest solution to this issue: Require every manager to submit rosters to the league prior to the start of any season. Some do, most don't. I appreciate the handful that have this year. It helped me get set up faster, rather than waiting for the first week of games to be played.
Bam Bam 8	Re: Line ups	#14	[-]
Major League Poster Posts: 1618 (07/07/06 2:29 PM) League Statistician Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I still need some last names. If you see a first name & last intial or first intial & a last name on your team's stats I need whichever is missing. Please send it to me with the name of the team, the night that they play & the whole name of the player that only has a partial name.
Bam Bam 8	Re: Line-ups # ???????	#15	[-]
Major League Poster Posts: 1618 (07/14/06 3:06 PM) League Statistician Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	A reminder if you have 2 players with the same first name & last initial we need more than the 1st name & last initial.
sixofdiamonds	Re: Line-ups # ???????	#16	[-]
Posts: 12970 (07/14/06 3:48 PM) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Pauly, ya wanna get their attention? Stop updating their stats. You'll have an email in your inbox in seconds flat. It might be scathing, consisting of all capital letters, and somewhat less than flattering, but you'll have their attention.
SuperlativeOwls	Re: Line-ups # ???????	#17	[-]
Double A Poster Posts: 51 (07/14/06 4:07 PM) Double A Poster Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	What teams are you still having problems with. I gave those sheets to every team except Tuesday and Thursday men's which I am gettin to next week. Is there any team that does not have those sheets let me know.
Bam Bam 8	Re: Line-ups # ???????	#18	[-]
Major League Poster Posts: 1618 (07/14/06 4:58 PM) League Statistician Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I still don't get a lot of the line-up cards from any of the nights. Most of the times I get more line-up cards or at least the first & last names most of the times unlike the past. It's getting better but still not that great.
Bam Bam 8	Re: Line-ups # ???????	#19	[-]
Major League Poster Posts: 1618 (09/16/06 2:41 PM) League Statistician Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	We need the eddies marked in the line-ups. I have a game from this past Sunday that has one female in the line-up. There aren't any other eddies listed. Even if there are other male eddies in the line-up they should have taken an out for only having 1 female but they didn't. Remeber you could have 4 eddies but if 2 of them aren't females you have to take an out for being short a female.
Bam Bam 8	Re: Line-ups # ???????	#20	[-]
Major League Poster Posts: 1618 (09/30/06 1:17 PM) League Statistician Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Just a reminder that you can only pick up players to make 9 unless it's to meet eddie requirements. Either way you can only play with 9 in the field. you can't pick up a core to fill a position that needs to be filled & then pick up an eddie to meet requirements & have 10 in the batting order. You could pick up one of them & either take an out for the eddie you're short if you choose the core or pick up the eddie to meet requirements & figure out how you're going to juggle your positions in the field.

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